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so i have uh joe here with the ufo joe

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joe

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how do you say your last name mergia

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mergia okay

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i'm sicilian mergia oh you're sicilian

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but can you pronounce my last name uh

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rash

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yes nice job most people call me scene

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rash

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so telemarketers and such

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um would you mind telling me a little

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bit

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about yourself

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as far as your upbringing you know

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your family life how you were raised and

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maybe

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segue that into what connected you

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with this world i grew up in long island

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new york

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and was born in 1965

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have two older sisters and

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my dad worked at grumman which is now

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grumman northrop

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um oh yeah it's

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we've never we've had very small talk

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about ufos he really doesn't want to

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talk about it i don't know if he ever

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had any

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anything related to it at grumman's

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possible

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um and the first

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connection i had and this is normal

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you know normal childhood nothing

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nothing out of the ordinary uh but my

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first connection to this

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subject i think it was 1973

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so i was eight i i'm not positive on

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that date but i went to the movies and

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saw

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with my sister a bigfoot.ush it was a

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docu-drama called

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uh the legend of bogey creek or boggy

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creek

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and i seem to remember there was a

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documentary before that

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on ufos so that was my first time so i

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was like

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you know i i i liked it and i watched

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the show in search of with leonard nimoy

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but i didn't know they were books yeah i

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was a kid you don't know their books

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there's no internet

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um and then i'm trying to think you know

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watching shows like in search of

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and that was seventies and then i saw

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close encounters in the theater

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in nineteen oh well he was 77 which blew

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me away i loved that yeah that would be

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great

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i had a picture of me playing drums

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because i'm a drummer and i had my

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clothes

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i had my close encounters t-shirt on and

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i can't find the picture which really

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makes me mad

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but um so i will have to jam sometime

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yeah

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all that

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nice yeah so if they do a live stream

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band session

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oh yeah all right sorry go ahead but

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that's

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no it's fine um so close encounters so i

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i didn't have anything related to the

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paranormal come up in my life

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i mean there's stuff that happened along

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the way like dreams that would come true

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occasionally so it's like but at the

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time i was like

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did not think anything i didn't think

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wow that's a premonition

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i didn't think like that um and then in

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i'd say it was like 81 82 i went to

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manhattan and went to an occult

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bookstore it was a really famous

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bookstore which i didn't know at the

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time but it's called the magical child

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it's more of an online shop now

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but they had all stuff for wiccans they

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had all these different herbs and eye of

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new you

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all that stuff but they also had a great

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selection of occult books

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books and i saw one on astral project

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astral

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projection which i had heard about

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through her cousin a cousin of mine

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so i bought that read about it um

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[Music]

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actually read the satanic bible which

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for people who have never read it it's

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really not about devil worshiping it's

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more of a philosophy book

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but they also told you that they also

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talk about um rituals where they're

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it's basically um you're trying to

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manifest stuff through rituals which at

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the time i didn't understand the

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connection

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you know the the the really dumbed down

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basic version of that is the secret if

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anybody's seen the movie the secret

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well that stuff goes way back and it

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goes way back

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maybe the 30s 40s where people had those

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ideas

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so then i'm trying to think

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common and she mentioned she goes

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my aunt had this experience where this

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being came into her

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house and he looked like the one that

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book

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communion i think it's called so i

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bought that book i'm like oh now we can

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now i have something to discuss with her

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a lot i didn't realize it was a you know

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i didn't realize it was bad abductions

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on my couch in my apartment and i

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couldn't move

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which doctor you know traditional

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doctors will say sleep paralysis

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other people will say that's all that's

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the uh that's the

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the precursor to an out of body

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experience whatever it was i didn't know

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i'd never experienced it and it scared

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the heck out of me

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next day i'm like you know what i'm

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going to take that as a sign to finish

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reading communion

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and i did and then there's so much stuff

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in communion that's not scary it's about

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metaphysics and meditation and

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so i read that and then i read the next

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book he put out and then i read the next

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book he put out and i just went down

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rabbit hole i read everything i could

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get my hands on

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a lot of stuff really not not credible

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i read a lot of channeling books um and

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i soon realized that you know they were

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just contradiction contradict

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contradictory information in all these

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different books so

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interesting but you know as far as

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evidence no and i was really gullible

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and over the years i met somebody i

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worked with in tampa and he would

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always call me on stuff he's like well

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how can you prove that how can you prove

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that how do you know

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you know ufos extra how could you even

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improve their extraterrestrials and i

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an ability to debate and i and i

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developed discernment at that time so

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it's been a long road so it's like to

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starting with believing everything i

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to being really skeptical and then

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coming back somewhere in the middle

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which is where i am now

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and then i think i lost it's the right

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place yeah well i lost

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i just think that's the right place i

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think it's the right place i mean

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i i'm open to a lot of stuff and i'll

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talk about a lot of stuff and i'll

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speculate all day long but in the end

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i'll tell people i don't know

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the only thing i feel people saying i

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know is that something

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anomalous is in our skies and our seas

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something is here as far as ufos

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what they are at least that much i think

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is agreed upon at this point with people

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i would hope so but there are people

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that that do not agree upon that they

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you know foreign adversarial tech or

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drones and maybe black budget

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even if it's black budget american tech

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or black budget for and that's

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adversarial that's still an amazing

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story that we have

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sure that can you know it's kind of the

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that's kind of the weird uh situation

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with you ufology is

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the people outside of the world think

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everyone in there

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just wants aliens to be real

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you know and so they kind of just

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discredit the whole thing because of

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uh aliens interdimensionals whatever and

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you know come to me and they say well on

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twitter they're like i do know what's

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i don't you know and i can't prove it

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extraterrestrial i'm like i don't even

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non-human it may not be extraterrestrial

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something that's been here before you

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know before humans were here

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and luis ellison who ran the pentagon's

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ufo program atip

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he said you know it could be right in

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front of us you know we can only see

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certain things with our eyes our eyes

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there could be stuff all around us right

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now and for me that's exciting

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you know but for somebody who's not into

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this stuff that's pretty scary if you

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george knapp has said you know

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extraterrestrials you think i think that

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the public can handle that

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but if you tell them there are these

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beings that can see us

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we can't see them and they can see us

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all the time when you're taking a shower

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people probably aren't going to react to

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that very well

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instead wearing their swim trunks in

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there yeah right

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yeah but i lost i lost interest after a

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throughout the 90s i was like you know

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hard at this i

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i quit my job i worked for the city of

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tampa television i quit that job

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it was like two or three years short of

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a pension i quit it to work on

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paranormal full-time with my newsletter

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i had at the time

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had a newsletter open my news that i

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edited

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and then i did that and it wasn't

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working out i wasn't pushing hard enough

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really a lot it wasn't a lot new there

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were books coming out and conferences to

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go to and i've been to a lot of ufo

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conferences

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and then all of a sudden 2017 somebody

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says hey there are some videos coming

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out and they're really impressive

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next thing you know and a couple people

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said new york times is doing an article

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the article comes out and that changed

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everything i mean i started my blog um

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and ever since that you know december 16

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2017 it's just been a whirlwind it's

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just

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new information i mean there have been

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lulls too where nothing comes out but

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the last couple of weeks have been

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incredible incredible and today's

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supposed to be an amazing day too so

301
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yeah i've been hearing rumblings

302
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sometimes it's just excitement

303
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and not much sometimes it meets up to

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the expectations i don't blame anybody

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if i hype and stuff

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i mean you know it's a hard world out

307
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there they're all just trying to do that

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thing

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hopefully the news that comes out today

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is awesome um

311
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yeah yeah hopefully i mean i hear it is

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it may even come out while we're talking

313
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uh oh well we may have to look at it

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yeah if it does i will but you know i

315
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keep getting messages

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so i'll check but i think it's gonna be

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two hours from now okay gotcha

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um well let me get to

319
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kind of the next part of this where i

320
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can ask you

321
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some really challenging impossible

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questions that

323
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i don't know how you're gonna answer but

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i'm just kidding

325
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i have a very dry sense of humor um what

326
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calculus questions

327
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yeah okay look at this question um

328
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something that i take from you is you

329
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know i've been following you

330
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and i don't see the word watching

331
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because that sounds creepy but you know

332
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twitter you follow

333
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some people they don't follow you you're

334
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reading what they do

335
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um and that's been my relationship with

336
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you

337
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for the most part i comment on some

338
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stuff once in a while but it's clear to

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me

340
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that you go above and beyond to make

341
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sure

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everything is documented accurately and

343
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correctly

344
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um so my question to you is um

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first how long have you been doing that

346
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and second because you're so meticulous

347
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and obviously you know a lot of people

348
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just take the big words from the

349
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interviews and stuff and they move on

350
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but when you're doing that you're

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documenting everything you're taking

352
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you're ingesting everything as it should

353
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be

354
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i know people don't like doing this but

355
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if you had to guess

356
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and give me your best theory let's say

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okay the world's going to end

358
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and it's all up to joe he's got to give

359
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us his best theory hopefully he's right

360
00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:52,320
what would it be as far as what's here

361
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you know what we're dealing with yeah it

362
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depends on which day you ask me i mean i

363
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mean i don't change

364
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people i don't change my opinion every

365
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day but it's like you hear

366
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different information you'll read or

367
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read a certain book from somebody and

368
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one of my favorite theories is you know

369
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if you read john keel and

370
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jacques jacques valet um they talk about

371
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something on this planet some people

372
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will call it ultra terrestrials

373
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but something on this planet that is

374
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able to

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and john keel's book operation trojan

376
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horse is just a must-reads you know

377
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yeah it's just like his work is amazing

378
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a lot of people don't know about it i

379
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didn't know about it until somebody told

380
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me a couple of years ago

381
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you read it and he talks about some

382
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intelligence that's able to basically

383
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create anything they want they can

384
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create saucers they can create

385
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any shape they want um just pop in out

386
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of nowhere they can create bodies they

387
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can create

388
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beings jacques vale has spoken about

389
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this too

390
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he's like well if if this is something

391
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that's you know

392
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say there's something with dna going on

393
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with abductions he's like

394
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well these there's a good chance these

395
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beings are able to create and

396
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and that's not an exact quote i'm gonna

397
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post his quote it's from

398
00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:05,680
something he did a couple years ago but

399
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he talks about how the

400
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they could basically create what they

401
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want so it would you know match up with

402
00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:11,920
our dna

403
00:13:15,590 --> 00:13:14,079
that's a theory um maybe

404
00:13:16,470 --> 00:13:15,600
extraterrestrials i mean i don't know

405
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maybe it's that

406
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and extra extraterrestrials and time

407
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travelers i mean it's speculation you

408
00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:22,000
know

409
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i think i do think some people who were

410
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part of the government or

411
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are still part of the government do have

412
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an idea of what we're dealing with

413
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but you know maybe what they are or what

414
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they look like

415
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um even if you open up a saucer and you

416
00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:37,600
see what it looks like it doesn't tell

417
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you what they are it doesn't tell you

418
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where they're from

419
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and most importantly it doesn't tell you

420
00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:42,639
their intentions and

421
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say you get a live you know a live e.t

422
00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,000
george knapp

423
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has a source that told him that yeah we

424
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did have a live

425
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non-human being and at area 51 and just

426
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let's say if that's true

427
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and they were able to communicate and

428
00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:58,560
you ask so what are your intentions

429
00:14:02,069 --> 00:14:00,720
why are you here just whatever it says

430
00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:02,079
you don't know if it's telling the truth

431
00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:04,880
you know right you know it could be

432
00:14:08,550 --> 00:14:06,480
lying to you so it's like impossible it

433
00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,560
could just know how to lie and that's it

434
00:14:11,670 --> 00:14:10,800
that could be how it lives is just lying

435
00:14:14,870 --> 00:14:11,680
right i mean

436
00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,880
i hope i'm hoping whatever negative

437
00:14:17,910 --> 00:14:16,320
if there are negative groups here that

438
00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:17,920
just don't have our best interests at

439
00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:19,600
heart and you know they're using us for

440
00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,880
whatever reason

441
00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:23,120
um i hope they're and you hear the story

442
00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:25,040
that there are other beings out there

443
00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,959
who will help us but they're waiting for

444
00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:28,079
us to like

445
00:14:32,230 --> 00:14:30,160
ask for help they won't step in so it's

446
00:14:33,030 --> 00:14:32,240
the old you know prime director from

447
00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:33,040
star trek

448
00:14:36,069 --> 00:14:34,720
they're not going to just jump in and

449
00:14:37,590 --> 00:14:36,079
you know and because our society

450
00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:37,600
probably wouldn't be able to handle that

451
00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,880
um so that's that that is my hope that

452
00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:42,480
there's somebody

453
00:14:46,230 --> 00:14:45,839
help waiting to hope help um yeah but

454
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:46,240
then we

455
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:47,680
you know we're talking about on another

456
00:14:50,389 --> 00:14:48,880
podcast i did the other day we're

457
00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:50,399
talking about how

458
00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:51,839
like with the military these these

459
00:14:56,870 --> 00:14:54,959
events if they're uh ufos slash uap

460
00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,880
unidentified aerial phenomena if they

461
00:15:00,310 --> 00:14:58,560
are increasing in number

462
00:15:02,150 --> 00:15:00,320
it makes me think that maybe they're

463
00:15:04,389 --> 00:15:02,160
trying to you know trying to get us

464
00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:04,399
to open up the game you know step up the

465
00:15:07,269 --> 00:15:05,360
game to the to the

466
00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:07,279
popular say you know admit it and

467
00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:08,800
they're just doing it just just by

468
00:15:12,790 --> 00:15:10,079
showing up here with our

469
00:15:14,310 --> 00:15:12,800
military nuke sites at you know at our

470
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:14,320
aircraft carriers

471
00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:16,800
but if that's the case and i wasn't able

472
00:15:19,189 --> 00:15:18,320
to explain this properly but if that's

473
00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:19,199
the case that

474
00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:20,959
that tells me maybe they know something

475
00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:22,880
that's going on on this planet

476
00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:25,680
that is vital that we act now you know

477
00:15:28,870 --> 00:15:27,279
we need to change our ways whether it's

478
00:15:31,269 --> 00:15:28,880
climate change you know environmental

479
00:15:32,870 --> 00:15:31,279
degradation or something

480
00:15:34,470 --> 00:15:32,880
something something they may know but

481
00:15:36,550 --> 00:15:34,480
that's total speculation

482
00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:36,560
maybe they have their own reason for you

483
00:15:39,749 --> 00:15:38,240
know upping their game and showing up a

484
00:15:40,870 --> 00:15:39,759
lot more because a lot the last couple

485
00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:40,880
of months you know we hear

486
00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:43,839
the stuff going on with our you know the

487
00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:45,600
uss

488
00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:49,440
yeah the last couple of years

489
00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:52,160
since 2019 this stuff is happening i

490
00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:53,440
can't believe it's

491
00:15:56,870 --> 00:15:55,040
that people aren't freaking out more you

492
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:56,880
know a lot of mainstream news is built

493
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:58,959
around fear and instilling that fear in

494
00:16:01,509 --> 00:16:00,720
people so they come back and watch and

495
00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:01,519
see what the

496
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:04,399
latest with that situation that caused

497
00:16:08,790 --> 00:16:05,680
the fear is

498
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,800
so is that being said i can't believe

499
00:16:12,069 --> 00:16:10,480
yes they're covering this situation but

500
00:16:13,670 --> 00:16:12,079
i cannot believe that they're not

501
00:16:17,189 --> 00:16:13,680
covering it even more so

502
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,199
it's like a 9-1-1 type of emergency um

503
00:16:21,030 --> 00:16:19,360
for people anyone who's watching this

504
00:16:23,509 --> 00:16:21,040
that may not know

505
00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:23,519
first of all you live under a rock

506
00:16:27,509 --> 00:16:24,399
second of all

507
00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:27,519
there are unknowns

508
00:16:33,430 --> 00:16:30,560
flying over our nuclear installations

509
00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:33,440
in military installations in our navy if

510
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:34,160
anything

511
00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,839
that really hurts the credibility and

512
00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:39,680
confidence a country has

513
00:16:45,030 --> 00:16:42,880
in its navy to even protect the country

514
00:16:45,990 --> 00:16:45,040
yeah and if it turns out it's russia or

515
00:16:48,949 --> 00:16:46,000
china that's even

516
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:48,959
as marco rubio said he said senator

517
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:50,720
marco rubio said to a cbs

518
00:16:54,629 --> 00:16:53,040
station in miami last year he said i i

519
00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:54,639
think it's better off if it's

520
00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,320
not from this planet because if it's

521
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:58,320
from this if it's russian or chinese

522
00:17:01,749 --> 00:16:59,440
we're screwed

523
00:17:02,949 --> 00:17:01,759
you know they've passed totally you know

524
00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:02,959
they've passed you know they've

525
00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,720
leapfrogged us technology-wise as

526
00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:06,319
elizondo was spoken about

527
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,919
so that's pretty scary um but i have a

528
00:17:13,189 --> 00:17:11,919
hard time thinking you know i was

529
00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:13,199
talking to jazz shaw

530
00:17:17,909 --> 00:17:16,240
yesterday and um

531
00:17:19,829 --> 00:17:17,919
he mentioned this and and i agree with

532
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,839
him i have a really hard time thinking

533
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:21,280
that another country

534
00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:25,439
has developed this amazing technology

535
00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:28,160
and no one else has a clue about it

536
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:29,200
really

537
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:31,200
first of all how long would it take to

538
00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:33,039
even develop that technology

539
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:35,120
probably decades and all that

540
00:17:38,070 --> 00:17:36,799
counterintelligence all that work we

541
00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,080
never found out

542
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:41,280
that'd be pretty bizarre to me i think i

543
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:42,000
think we

544
00:17:45,909 --> 00:17:44,080
we may have figured something out along

545
00:17:47,350 --> 00:17:45,919
the way i don't think we have the same

546
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:47,360
technology that they do i don't think

547
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,880
any human does as far as i know

548
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:52,720
but people you know people the argument

549
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:55,679
with the with the kid in omaha

550
00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:58,400
and the russell uh they're saying those

551
00:18:01,990 --> 00:17:59,520
are drones

552
00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:02,000
but the problem is you know it's made it

553
00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:02,880
into the uap

554
00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:04,640
task force classified briefing this

555
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:07,200
stuff is included they're saying

556
00:18:10,630 --> 00:18:08,640
you know and i've spoken to my own

557
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:10,640
source it's like yeah they're saying

558
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:14,480
it's it's and it's the unidentified

559
00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:17,600
investigation you know even susan gao

560
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:19,679
said that in one of her emails she said

561
00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:23,760
this is included in an ongoing

562
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:26,640
investigation so if it's ongoing that

563
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,640
means they still need that material to

564
00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,559
help them out which means it's not

565
00:18:34,549 --> 00:18:33,120
freaking plains dude

566
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:34,559
one thing susan goff didn't say she

567
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:36,080
didn't say they were unidentified which

568
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:38,000
everybody is that's true

569
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,320
she's they're saying well she didn't say

570
00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:42,080
they were unidentified which because she

571
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:42,720
did with the

572
00:18:47,029 --> 00:18:45,600
gimbal and stuff right they did say

573
00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:47,039
these are uap i believe

574
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:49,760
uh i think the navy said that too um so

575
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,039
that's why well why didn't

576
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:53,760
she say it this time and the theory is

577
00:18:56,230 --> 00:18:55,200
is because they know these are drones

578
00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,240
and they're making it they're going to

579
00:18:58,789 --> 00:18:57,760
make us look like idiots by saying

580
00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:58,799
they're uap

581
00:19:01,669 --> 00:19:00,320
and then somewhere down the line they'll

582
00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:01,679
pull out the rug out from under us and

583
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,320
say

584
00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,160
you guys are idiots these were you these

585
00:19:06,870 --> 00:19:06,000
were these were drones and balloons the

586
00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:06,880
entire time

587
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,480
and you guys you guys thought they were

588
00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:10,240
uap i mean the ua

589
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:12,720
task uap task force is a bunch of idiots

590
00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,240
the o and i because it's not

591
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:16,320
it's you it you know uap task force it's

592
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:17,760
the owen

593
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:19,600
people above them they think they're a

594
00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:22,000
uap so if they're wrong

595
00:19:26,470 --> 00:19:23,360
yeah we're in major trouble if these

596
00:19:28,690 --> 00:19:26,480
people are that clueless

597
00:19:30,310 --> 00:19:28,700
is there any historical um

598
00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:30,320
[Music]

599
00:19:33,669 --> 00:19:31,600
context for something like that

600
00:19:37,029 --> 00:19:33,679
happening before ufo

601
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:37,039
and ufology where they

602
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:40,240
deliberately almost tried to embarrass

603
00:19:45,029 --> 00:19:44,400
the group i'm trying to think there may

604
00:19:46,950 --> 00:19:45,039
be that's

605
00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:46,960
that i can't think of right now i mean

606
00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:48,480
there's been people like bill

607
00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:49,760
moore who was working with the

608
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:52,000
government and

609
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,280
i just don't know what the point of that

610
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:55,280
would be you know

611
00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,520
i mean why would they wanna it's so much

612
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:59,200
so many people would have to be in on

613
00:20:03,190 --> 00:19:59,760
that and

614
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:03,200
you know i just what the point

615
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:04,320
well because they don't want this

616
00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:05,840
information out i mean there are people

617
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,200
in our government and

618
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,200
several people have written talked about

619
00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,960
this they don't want this out for

620
00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,880
a big part of it is religious reasons

621
00:20:16,149 --> 00:20:14,400
because they think they're demonic and

622
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:16,159
any interaction and acknowledging from

623
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:17,760
us is going to open that door

624
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,400
so they just wanted us to ignore it well

625
00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:21,520
don't they want to

626
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:25,039
bring on revelations yeah

627
00:20:28,149 --> 00:20:26,480
apparently that's what i always think is

628
00:20:29,510 --> 00:20:28,159
like if you think demons

629
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:29,520
then that doesn't make sense that you

630
00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:31,200
don't want to acknowledge it because

631
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:32,799
well i grew up non-denominational

632
00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:35,120
christian i'm so very i'm not anymore

633
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:37,760
but i'm very familiar with that

634
00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:39,120
you know what they believe what they

635
00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:41,039
want and they all have this hidden

636
00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:44,320
hope deep inside that revelation comes

637
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:46,080
and god comes back to the earth and

638
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:47,600
saves everybody so

639
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:49,679
if they think they're demons i would

640
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:50,799
think they'd say

641
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,320
yeah game on it's time yeah

642
00:20:57,909 --> 00:20:55,840
wouldn't they the same thing happened

643
00:20:59,830 --> 00:20:57,919
with the remote viewing it's a mentality

644
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,840
and they didn't want remote viewing to

645
00:21:02,390 --> 00:21:01,039
they didn't want the program to take

646
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:02,400
place basically for people who don't

647
00:21:06,310 --> 00:21:04,159
know what remote viewing is is

648
00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:06,320
they had soldiers who would just use

649
00:21:11,190 --> 00:21:09,280
their sixth sense to acquire information

650
00:21:12,710 --> 00:21:11,200
about anything past present future

651
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:12,720
basically your psychic

652
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,919
abilities and the same people did not

653
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,480
want

654
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,360
pulled the funding they did everything

655
00:21:23,590 --> 00:21:21,200
everything they could to pull funding

656
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,600
um it's funny because it lasted for 20

657
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,280
years they had 20 million dollars over

658
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:27,120
20 years which is not a lot

659
00:21:30,149 --> 00:21:29,039
and then the people who were fighting

660
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:30,159
for the program one

661
00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:32,799
three of them were senator nua senator

662
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:34,960
stevens and senator glenn

663
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:37,840
those three also helped create the ufo

664
00:21:40,950 --> 00:21:39,840
program in 2007 so it's interesting

665
00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:40,960
those people have been

666
00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:44,080
battling for us for a long time um yeah

667
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:44,640
one of them

668
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,240
one of the i don't know the exact

669
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:47,919
position of the person but he spoke to

670
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,520
joe mcmonicle who was the first

671
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:52,240
remote viewer amazing psychic and he

672
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:52,799
told

673
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,559
doing the work of god

674
00:22:00,470 --> 00:21:58,080
and the other one said son you weren't

675
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:00,480
doing the work with the devil

676
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,760
he's like i don't know which one scared

677
00:22:07,510 --> 00:22:04,480
me the most yeah

678
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:07,520
i'm just doing work oh

679
00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:09,440
man yeah i mean when you get into that

680
00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:11,520
stuff the remote viewing and all that it

681
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:12,000
it

682
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:15,200
gets like life is more of a

683
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:18,480
sci-fi movie than anyone realizes

684
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,840
which is just intriguing

685
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,760
and kind of exciting it's one of the

686
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:25,440
things that you know people

687
00:22:28,470 --> 00:22:26,960
have asked me you know what are you in

688
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:28,480
this for and i think

689
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:31,760
for me personally i think remote viewing

690
00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,960
is the tip of the iceberg there's so

691
00:22:35,990 --> 00:22:34,400
many other things i think that humans

692
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:36,000
are capable of doing

693
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:39,600
and i think if we can get the masses to

694
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:42,960
eventually say okay we've been lied to

695
00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:45,440
for 70 plus years about ufos what else

696
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:46,640
did they lie to us about

697
00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:48,080
i want to know and that's when i could

698
00:22:52,390 --> 00:22:50,400
say well you had remote viewing you have

699
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:52,400
healing that's going on you have

700
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,240
some of the best data is related to

701
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,000
healing mice of cancer it's

702
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:57,840
something i've spoken about a lot

703
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:59,200
william bankston he's

704
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,200
he's done experiments in laboratories

705
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:03,280
you know i think it's over a dozen

706
00:23:08,310 --> 00:23:06,400
and it's data after data after data um

707
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:08,320
so i think humans can do things that we

708
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,520
don't realize and that's

709
00:23:14,230 --> 00:23:12,400
i think acknowledging the ufo stuff and

710
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,240
realizing we've been lied to would be a

711
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:16,240
big step towards opening a lot of minds

712
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:16,720
about

713
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:19,039
what else have we been not necessarily

714
00:23:21,590 --> 00:23:19,919
lied to but

715
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,600
you know it's just hasha you can't get a

716
00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,440
paper it's really difficult to get

717
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:25,760
a paper written on any of this stuff you

718
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,480
know because the

719
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:28,159
superior review they just don't want

720
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,600
that you know it's in their minds it's

721
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,280
like this is not possible so

722
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:33,360
it doesn't make it into journals that's

723
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:34,880
why the work of gary nolan and jacques

724
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,320
valet they're working on materials

725
00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,919
they're trying to get it published and

726
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:40,320
apparently they're moving along so yeah

727
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:41,760
science is important it's just hard to

728
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:42,240
get

729
00:23:45,669 --> 00:23:44,159
break that door down for a peer review

730
00:23:48,390 --> 00:23:45,679
because you know they have this

731
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:48,400
this mindset that it's not possible

732
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:49,039
right

733
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:52,240
which is uh it just incredible to me

734
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,600
that people

735
00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:55,120
and that's one big thing that they think

736
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,799
is not possible but there's so many

737
00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,640
everyday things or things that people

738
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:00,159
want to do with their life

739
00:24:05,190 --> 00:24:02,559
that they say just isn't possible that

740
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:05,200
is you know it's definitely a downfall

741
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,840
of the human and not being able to

742
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:09,440
believe in something special

743
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:12,640
whether it's in themselves or

744
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:16,840
you know yeah that's impossible it's

745
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:18,320
impossible the four men will never be

746
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:19,600
we'll never be able to break the four

747
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,080
minute mile mark you know it's like yeah

748
00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:23,679
what what are we gonna look at ten years

749
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:25,200
from now and say oh my can you believe

750
00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:27,360
we didn't think we were capable of this

751
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,120
or that right so

752
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:31,760
it's like cell phones right yeah exactly

753
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,159
i mean

754
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:34,159
technology i just can't believe the next

755
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:36,799
10 20 years are gonna be amazing um

756
00:24:41,110 --> 00:24:39,360
so as much as i love the ufo stuff i

757
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:41,120
just think it's more deeper than that i

758
00:24:44,789 --> 00:24:41,760
think it's

759
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:44,799
more about human you know human

760
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:46,960
capabilities that's really you know but

761
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:49,279
i do like the ufo stuff especially

762
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:51,200
i i look forward to people and it's

763
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:52,720
starting to happen a little bit but more

764
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:54,400
people that i know who have never been

765
00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:55,120
into this

766
00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,880
you know they hear about what i'm

767
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:59,039
working on and they want to know more

768
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:02,000
so my fam my family for the most part no

769
00:25:05,269 --> 00:25:03,120
not yet

770
00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:05,279
a little bit but i have friends that are

771
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,720
like you know tell me about your blog

772
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:08,080
tell me what's going on and there's just

773
00:25:10,390 --> 00:25:08,640
so many

774
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:10,400
you know nbc network news just did a

775
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,840
story on on the

776
00:25:15,110 --> 00:25:13,440
on the events related to the russell and

777
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,120
the omaha and you know

778
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:17,039
i could pass on an nbc network news

779
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:18,960
story that's more impressive than

780
00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,400
my blog you know who am i and uh any any

781
00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:23,840
mainstream coverage like that is great

782
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:26,240
and that's what happened since 2017

783
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,919
mainstream coverage has increased

784
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:29,520
exponentially and people there are

785
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:30,159
people

786
00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:31,760
who have been in this subject for such a

787
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,360
long time and they're like i don't know

788
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:35,039
what it is if they're jaded if they're

789
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,320
mad that

790
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,679
like tom delong and some of the new

791
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:39,279
people got you know a lot of the

792
00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,559
attention but they're like

793
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,320
this is nothing new this has happened in

794
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:43,679
the 50s

795
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,520
really nothing to see here you guys are

796
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:47,919
getting excited over nothing i was like

797
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,000
no there's a reason excited there's a

798
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:51,760
reason you know

799
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,360
i mean i don't know these people

800
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,200
personally so i

801
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:56,960
am definitely prepared to be wrong but

802
00:26:02,230 --> 00:26:00,640
if i had to guess it would be jealousy

803
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,240
yeah i understand that human human

804
00:26:07,430 --> 00:26:04,559
beings are jealous we're jealous so

805
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,440
hopefully you know if if what i'm

806
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:09,120
hearing comes out

807
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:12,000
those those folks will be more open um

808
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:13,200
but there are other people who made it

809
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:14,720
political you know they you know have

810
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:14,960
you

811
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:21,909
just that just the stuff that's

812
00:26:25,029 --> 00:26:23,919
i don't want to say specifically in case

813
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:25,039
it doesn't that's fine just

814
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,480
just an article that's supposed to come

815
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,240
out um but no

816
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,279
um people talk about harry senator harry

817
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,159
reid who i was lucky enough to interview

818
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:36,080
a couple of years ago i stumbled upon

819
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,679
the interview i was i was called as a

820
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,120
camera operator i just

821
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,200
go wherever i'm called to work on

822
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,960
reality shows sports whatever

823
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,320
and somebody said we have a shoot for

824
00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:46,080
you it's one day it's with a local

825
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:48,000
politician i'm like okay

826
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,279
and then the day before they're like

827
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:51,200
it's it's senator harry reid and he had

828
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:52,320
already come out you know

829
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,919
the new york times story had always had

830
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,679
already broken so

831
00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,320
um not my best interview but you know i

832
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,240
got to interview him and that was great

833
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,240
and people take shots at him and

834
00:27:05,350 --> 00:27:04,799
you know he's a politician people they

835
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:05,360
lie

836
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:09,200
about ufos which means his credibility

837
00:27:11,269 --> 00:27:10,480
it's like you think it's just people

838
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:11,279
that like

839
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,720
you know

840
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:17,279
everybody that's one thing that kind of

841
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:18,480
irritates me is

842
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:21,520
um when people kind of go too far with

843
00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:24,480
uh attacks or assuming someone's lying

844
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,440
it's

845
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:27,760
to me like the one thing actually every

846
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:29,520
human has in common is that we're

847
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,399
different

848
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:32,960
you know so you can't assume you know

849
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:33,520
let's say

850
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:35,039
everyone in the government's always lied

851
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:36,240
well there could be one person that

852
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:38,000
doesn't that means the world

853
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:39,600
everyone's different and you have to

854
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:41,279
treat them as such

855
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,559
you know harry reid i think

856
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:47,760
from at least my perspective is the guy

857
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:48,720
is

858
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,080
and does a lot of hard work to see

859
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000
that through and he really believes in

860
00:28:03,350 --> 00:27:59,919
it with his heart

861
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,360
and that's good to me you know

862
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,360
um unfortunately it sounds like he's

863
00:28:09,750 --> 00:28:06,880
sick so

864
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:09,760
yeah he's still getting chemo um you

865
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:10,399
know people

866
00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:12,720
in in his interviews may not not

867
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:13,840
everything he says may be

868
00:28:17,110 --> 00:28:15,840
crystal clear so people he said

869
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:17,120
something the other day yeah i got

870
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,080
confused

871
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:20,159
yeah it was really bad but that the two

872
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:22,480
newspapers the daily star and the sun

873
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,640
is not not known for their credibility

874
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:26,399
although they've been doing better with

875
00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:27,440
ufos lately

876
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,990
or google just google some of his other

877
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:37,279
interviews he's on record

878
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:39,039
talking about russia and putin how

879
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:40,640
they're interested in ufos along with

880
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:41,360
china

881
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:43,279
and we need to we need to up our game so

882
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:44,960
we you know we don't fall behind them

883
00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:46,480
that's basically what you're saying

884
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,320
um yeah but one thing about which i've

885
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,640
i've not talked about this and it's

886
00:28:55,830 --> 00:28:54,240
something really important i don't think

887
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,840
i would be here

888
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:57,440
i don't think i'd have my blog if it

889
00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,200
wasn't for george knapp and people don't

890
00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,200
understand what i mean by that

891
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:03,679
jeremy i met jeremy corbell at a

892
00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:04,960
conference um at

893
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:08,399
ufo megacon a couple years ago

894
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,240
about an hour and a half from vegas in

895
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:13,039
laughlin nevada and um he goes george

896
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,000
would not be here

897
00:29:18,630 --> 00:29:17,279
and he explained why

898
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,640
george knapp wrote hunt for the

899
00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:20,480
skinwalker which is about skinwalker

900
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,200
ranch where

901
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:23,279
his most studied paranormal place in the

902
00:29:26,630 --> 00:29:24,240
world

903
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:26,640
he wrote about that in the 90s uh there

904
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,640
was a scientist at the dia who read the

905
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,679
book

906
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,279
and he's a rocket scientist i think i

907
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:33,200
think he had a phd in math and sci

908
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:36,159
in physics he wanted to visit the ranch

909
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,440
so he did he

910
00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,039
called up big he got in contact with

911
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,520
bigelow went to the ranch had an

912
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:43,440
experience a paranormal experience where

913
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:45,679
he saw this this

914
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:48,880
this like evolving shape uh

915
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,720
called like a i forget the word for it

916
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:55,760
a mobius loop um

917
00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,480
and he said you know what we need to

918
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,320
study ufos but we need to study

919
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:01,919
all this other stuff that's connect if

920
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:03,840
we really want to know what's going on

921
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:06,640
we need to study all of this so he went

922
00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:07,440
and

923
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,200
program got started so if it wasn't for

924
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,520
reading knapp's book going to the ranch

925
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:14,799
having the experience and then talking

926
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,720
to reid and saying we need this program

927
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,720
well we wouldn't be doing this you know

928
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:20,640
it's like it it really was the impetus

929
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,440
for all of this

930
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,039
and um it's a great book too if you

931
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:25,039
haven't read it hunt for the skinwalker

932
00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:27,039
about the goings-on at the ranch and the

933
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:29,440
studies and also on ufology in general

934
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,480
different theories

935
00:30:33,510 --> 00:30:31,600
they go through all the different

936
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:33,520
theories it's really cool it's like like

937
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:34,720
a must-read if it's an

938
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:37,440
audio book i do audio it's on audio too

939
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:38,320
yeah

940
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:42,559
because i'm in the car all the time

941
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,600
um i read um the last book i read like

942
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:47,279
that was secret machines

943
00:30:54,789 --> 00:30:51,120
um and just because of it was um

944
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:54,799
promoted as almost your answers like

945
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,960
i went back and looked at the earlier

946
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,279
videos and everything of him promoting

947
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:01,760
that book and to the stars and a lot of

948
00:31:04,950 --> 00:31:02,720
it was

949
00:31:06,630 --> 00:31:04,960
about that novel that novel was almost

950
00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:06,640
like a centerpiece more so

951
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:09,360
than the show unidentified and he said a

952
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:10,080
lot of

953
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:11,760
the answers you want are in there so i'm

954
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,519
like well i want to answer

955
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,600
i'm going to read the thing well i'm 400

956
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,600
pages into it i'm like man this is slow

957
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:19,039
this got to be over soon

958
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:22,480
i check not even close it's a novel it's

959
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:25,519
700 some pages i'm like oh my god but

960
00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,720
uh it got a lot better as

961
00:31:32,230 --> 00:31:30,320
you know kind of the halfway pointer

962
00:31:33,830 --> 00:31:32,240
through it got uh you know and when i

963
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:33,840
say better i just mean

964
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,720
um it captured my attention a lot more

965
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,600
and it was uh

966
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:39,200
very fun to pretend i was one of the

967
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,120
characters yeah

968
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:43,279
um but you know he says trying in that

969
00:31:47,430 --> 00:31:44,240
book triangles

970
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:47,440
are ours you know um

971
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:50,559
discs are aliens and

972
00:31:54,630 --> 00:31:52,720
you know for him to promote it like he

973
00:31:56,710 --> 00:31:54,640
did and then that's the information in

974
00:32:03,110 --> 00:31:56,720
there

975
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,630
i mean we've i mean it's been discussed

976
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,720
on twitter well i wasn't here i guess

977
00:32:09,509 --> 00:32:08,240
then yeah we don't know

978
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:09,519
you don't know what in those books are

979
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,760
true and what is not i mean i've heard

980
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:13,360
it's frustrating i've heard the same

981
00:32:16,710 --> 00:32:14,399
about you know there are other people

982
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,720
who have done research david marlar and

983
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,880
other people um richard dolan and

984
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,640
talking about some of the triangles may

985
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:22,159
be ours

986
00:32:25,430 --> 00:32:24,720
yeah but if you bring that up in ufo

987
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:25,440
circles

988
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,440
people there are some people that say no

989
00:32:31,750 --> 00:32:29,840
way we no way do we have that technology

990
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,760
and yeah and one of the interviews i did

991
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,360
with will miller who a lot of people

992
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,960
don't know he was mentioned in leslie

993
00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:36,960
keane's book back in 2000

994
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,440
she called him a true insider and around

995
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:41,200
2000 i became friends with him

996
00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:42,559
it just happened i became friends with

997
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:43,919
him i didn't really know how important

998
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:44,799
he was

999
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,360
um he's in my blog that which we haven't

1000
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,120
talked about about wilson davis about

1001
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:50,880
crash retrievals

1002
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:54,000
yeah i just saw that actually if you

1003
00:32:57,029 --> 00:32:55,519
want to segue into that weekend

1004
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:57,039
we're kind of just going with the flow

1005
00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:58,960
which i like so back in the night which

1006
00:33:03,269 --> 00:32:59,440
is cool

1007
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,279
but 97 uh stephen greer who's another

1008
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,200
he's a lightning rod because he says a

1009
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:06,799
lot of controversial things and people

1010
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:07,120
hate

1011
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,919
him people love him but he was on coast

1012
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:11,679
to coast saying that

1013
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:15,919
he was briefing a joint chiefs fellow

1014
00:33:20,149 --> 00:33:18,640
about ufos and programs and this guy

1015
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:20,159
didn't know any of this information he

1016
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:21,840
had no access to it

1017
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:23,679
and supposedly greer and and at the

1018
00:33:27,269 --> 00:33:25,039
meeting with stephen greer

1019
00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:27,279
will miller who set up the meeting and

1020
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,960
edgar mitchell the six man the walk on

1021
00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,679
the moon

1022
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,760
there's two other people there um and

1023
00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:33,840
supposedly this person admiral thomas

1024
00:33:36,710 --> 00:33:34,399
wilson

1025
00:33:38,549 --> 00:33:36,720
who went on to become the to the um

1026
00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:38,559
director of the defense intelligence

1027
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,679
agency he um greer

1028
00:33:46,149 --> 00:33:43,440
or miller gave him information about a

1029
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:46,159
special access program related to ufos

1030
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:49,600
he actually according to documents that

1031
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,200
came out later and the story the way the

1032
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:52,960
story goes which mitchell told the story

1033
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:53,760
too

1034
00:34:00,630 --> 00:33:58,399
he went to this special access program

1035
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,640
and wanted access he goes um i think he

1036
00:34:06,389 --> 00:34:03,440
was at the time he was the joint chiefs

1037
00:34:08,310 --> 00:34:06,399
deputy two of intelligence so he had

1038
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:08,320
oversight into all these programs

1039
00:34:11,109 --> 00:34:09,760
and they said you know so he got he

1040
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:11,119
found out where the program was and he

1041
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,520
said

1042
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:12,800
i want to see what you guys have here

1043
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,560
and they're like sorry you don't have a

1044
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:16,560
need to know we can't let you in

1045
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,159
and he was furious so he's supposedly

1046
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,480
according to the wilson davis documents

1047
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:24,320
they told him

1048
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,919
that it was a program that reversed

1049
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,560
engineered you know a craft that they

1050
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,800
had an intact craft that was not made of

1051
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,639
human hands not made on earth

1052
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,399
they didn't have much success because

1053
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:35,679
the program was very limited and how

1054
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,440
many people were led in so not a lot of

1055
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,760
scientific minds could look at it figure

1056
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:40,960
it out

1057
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:43,520
um they had an idea of where it came

1058
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,399
from

1059
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,240
he didn't say he wouldn't answer that he

1060
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:48,000
hadn't and he wouldn't say

1061
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:50,159
what it was in the hands of a private

1062
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:51,919
aerospace contractor

1063
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:55,040
um okay he wouldn't say who

1064
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:57,280
probably yeah i don't know if it was

1065
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,079
bigelow this

1066
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,200
stuff may be coming out about that um

1067
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:03,839
but and he also said um you know they

1068
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,880
weren't going to give him a tour he

1069
00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,560
wanted to take a tour so he was livid he

1070
00:35:10,790 --> 00:35:07,839
talked to people and they're like

1071
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:10,800
you know the special access uh program

1072
00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:12,800
committee i think sapco they they said

1073
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:13,599
just let it go

1074
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:15,520
or you're gonna lose a couple of stars

1075
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:16,560
you're gonna you know you're not gonna

1076
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,640
get your promotion just let it go

1077
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:21,680
um that was in 97 and then in

1078
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:25,760
2002 well two years ago documents leaked

1079
00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:28,079
about a meeting between astrophysicist

1080
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:29,040
eric davis and

1081
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:30,880
wilson the guy who was shot allegedly

1082
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:32,480
shot out of the program and it just goes

1083
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:33,040
through

1084
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,640
wilson telling davis everything that

1085
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,400
happened and coincidentally

1086
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,240
coincidentally again i became friends

1087
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,160
with eric davis a couple of years ago

1088
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,240
he will not talk about that he will not

1089
00:35:46,310 --> 00:35:44,400
talk about that but um

1090
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:46,320
he i've said this before he knew i was

1091
00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:47,520
working on a

1092
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,200
massive blog on wilson davis and i

1093
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:53,200
feel pretty comfortable if he had known

1094
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,000
it was just totally bogus he would say

1095
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:58,480
stop wasting your time but i never said

1096
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,760
anything never said anything i have a

1097
00:36:05,190 --> 00:36:01,520
couple of quotes from him in there

1098
00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:05,200
about whether lockheed is the company um

1099
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:06,800
but that's a big obviously that's the

1100
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:09,040
biggest story ever because ufo's okay

1101
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:10,160
great we don't know where they're from

1102
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:11,200
but if we have

1103
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:14,079
a craft an intact craft and we have a

1104
00:36:16,069 --> 00:36:14,400
bot

1105
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,079
maybe we have body sue because that's

1106
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,839
been brought up by several people

1107
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:19,359
that that's game over if we can get

1108
00:36:21,990 --> 00:36:21,040
access to that people

1109
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:22,000
you know we don't know where they're

1110
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:23,920
from but this is what they look like

1111
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:25,599
this is a craft you know

1112
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,520
uh it's technology we can't even figure

1113
00:36:30,870 --> 00:36:28,720
out it's like

1114
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:30,880
oh man what a day that would be yeah

1115
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:36,069
there are theories that there are

1116
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,440
theories that well the

1117
00:36:41,349 --> 00:36:39,200
the admiral that showed up that day was

1118
00:36:42,550 --> 00:36:41,359
an imposter and that fooled eric davis

1119
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,560
i'm like oh okay

1120
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:44,480
not happening eric davis is too bright

1121
00:36:47,750 --> 00:36:46,000
for that um

1122
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,760
sometimes the imagination these people

1123
00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:49,839
have about how different things are than

1124
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:50,800
the story told

1125
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,240
is more so than aliens

1126
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:58,000
you know well there may be other reasons

1127
00:36:59,910 --> 00:36:59,520
for it maybe certain people don't want

1128
00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,920
this

1129
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,680
story out and that's just you know

1130
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,280
there's they'll say whatever

1131
00:37:07,109 --> 00:37:05,520
just and it's not necessarily for a bad

1132
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,119
reason in their mind

1133
00:37:10,790 --> 00:37:09,119
they think the truth will just you know

1134
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,800
destroy our society and that's why the

1135
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,880
secret may have been kept originally

1136
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:14,720
um and there's another theory about

1137
00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:16,480
wilson davis that it's a movie script

1138
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,520
and it's like

1139
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:19,440
no it's not a movie script it leaked out

1140
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,599
of edgar mitchell's estate when he died

1141
00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:23,119
actually edgar mitchell died a few years

1142
00:37:25,270 --> 00:37:23,839
ago

1143
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,280
these were part of the documents that

1144
00:37:29,349 --> 00:37:27,680
were found that were ufo-related

1145
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:29,359
i don't think dr edgar mitchell who has

1146
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,720
spoken about this

1147
00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:32,320
in various i have it on my blog he's

1148
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,160
spoken about the meeting

1149
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:35,520
and he's referenced the meeting that

1150
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:37,119
dave has had with wilson but without

1151
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,760
naming them

1152
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,599
i don't think edgar mitchell is going to

1153
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:41,359
have a movie script

1154
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:43,200
in his possessions i think he's a little

1155
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:44,560
smarter than that and george knapp has

1156
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,599
talked about it too

1157
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:47,280
everybody connected he said these are

1158
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,040
real the meeting happened

1159
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,839
whether or not wilson told davis the you

1160
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,320
know

1161
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,280
the truth or or the contractor told

1162
00:37:58,470 --> 00:37:56,240
admiral wilson

1163
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:58,480
the truth about that program can't i

1164
00:38:02,710 --> 00:37:59,760
don't know i think

1165
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,720
i think they did i think it's true but

1166
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,720
you know i i'll go as far as saying i

1167
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,400
believe in the meeting happened 100

1168
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:09,599
it was 2002 in las vegas right

1169
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:11,760
well you know one thing i've realized

1170
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:14,079
being a manager a boss or owning a

1171
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,880
company is

1172
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,560
uh when a situation comes up there's

1173
00:38:22,150 --> 00:38:18,720
always um

1174
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,160
you know their truth their truth and

1175
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:24,400
then the truth

1176
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:25,839
you know which is usually in the middle

1177
00:38:30,710 --> 00:38:27,680
of the two stories you hear

1178
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,720
uh but yeah it's great reporting and

1179
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:32,400
great job getting that stuff up there i

1180
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:33,599
mean if it's not for

1181
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,440
people like you doing that i wouldn't

1182
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,440
even know what to do

1183
00:38:41,030 --> 00:38:39,520
i would have this big problem uh with

1184
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:41,040
ufos and

1185
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:42,320
i wouldn't know how to read or how to

1186
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:43,440
learn more about it so i really

1187
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,560
appreciate you doing that

1188
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:46,079
i just have a couple more questions for

1189
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,920
you if that's cool yeah

1190
00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,599
you got time a lot of people yeah a lot

1191
00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:51,440
of people are doing great work and and

1192
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,000
i'm really

1193
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:53,520
i'm not really a reporter i just i like

1194
00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,880
to collect information that a lot of

1195
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:56,160
people may have missed the first time

1196
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,599
that's kind of what i do

1197
00:39:00,630 --> 00:38:59,359
and then try to put pieces together like

1198
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,640
you know if i see something from three

1199
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:01,920
years ago that somebody forgot and it

1200
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,960
connects to something

1201
00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:04,480
that makes us think you know what maybe

1202
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:06,400
that tells us x y or z

1203
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:09,200
so but i appreciate that um yeah you're

1204
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,000
not a reporter

1205
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:12,720
that's that's like reporting on steroids

1206
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,240
is what you're doing

1207
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,760
my standards are lower you know i could

1208
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:17,359
put stuff in my blog that like the new

1209
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:18,320
york times can't put

1210
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,599
you know some of the stuff i had in my

1211
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:21,920
wilson davis blog true you know they may

1212
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:23,359
have had access to some of that from

1213
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:24,320
what i heard but

1214
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,920
it didn't make it into their report so

1215
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,440
they still had some great stuff they had

1216
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,720
eric davis saying

1217
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,960
you know he briefed two senate

1218
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,920
committees

1219
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:34,079
on the retrieval of off-world vehicles

1220
00:39:37,349 --> 00:39:35,920
off-world vehicles yeah people like well

1221
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:37,359
no he didn't have the clearances that's

1222
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:38,480
not i don't believe that

1223
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:41,359
it's like you know he did that just

1224
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:43,040
means we need a vehicle that can't do

1225
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,359
anything here

1226
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:47,599
yeah i mean retrieval of off-world

1227
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:48,400
vehicles is

1228
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,079
it's a pretty big thing basically it's

1229
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,000
huge that was not made here

1230
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:55,119
so um but most people can't just deal

1231
00:39:59,349 --> 00:39:56,079
with it

1232
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,359
like it the people who don't like eric

1233
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:00,880
davis they don't like harry they don't

1234
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:02,160
like jeremy cormel they don't like

1235
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:02,800
george snapp

1236
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,760
they don't like that they're connected

1237
00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:05,599
to the lazar story it just goes on and

1238
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:06,000
on

1239
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:12,079
you know here you go they there's so

1240
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:13,440
many people that are contributing to

1241
00:40:15,910 --> 00:40:14,560
this so

1242
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:15,920
or you can just not pay attention to

1243
00:40:19,190 --> 00:40:17,520
them if you don't like someone don't

1244
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:19,200
follow them don't listen to them like

1245
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,480
why do you have to

1246
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:22,000
it's hard for them to ignore it though

1247
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:23,440
because it hurt people piece of

1248
00:40:26,390 --> 00:40:24,400
information so

1249
00:40:27,589 --> 00:40:26,400
but anyway what other questions you have

1250
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,599
yeah i get it

1251
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:29,359
well for any haters out there hating

1252
00:40:31,829 --> 00:40:30,720
each other uh it's just

1253
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:31,839
childish and we're not going to get

1254
00:40:34,069 --> 00:40:33,520
anywhere fighting if we can come

1255
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:34,079
together

1256
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,680
and work off of each other i think that

1257
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,680
would be best everybody's got different

1258
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,480
qualities

1259
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:41,200
you know i mean sometimes you know i get

1260
00:40:44,550 --> 00:40:41,680
it sure

1261
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,560
well it's human it's human but i think

1262
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,000
you know there's a difference between

1263
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:48,800
a human that makes a mistake and just

1264
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:49,760
moves on

1265
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:51,440
and a human that makes a mistake

1266
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,160
realizes it and then does what he can

1267
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,400
to rectify it you know that's what a

1268
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:57,440
good human is

1269
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:58,960
and if we could all just do stuff like

1270
00:41:03,430 --> 00:41:01,520
that and put our egos in the trash

1271
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:03,440
but hey i'm new to this so i don't know

1272
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:06,800
a lot of the drama behind the scenes

1273
00:41:13,430 --> 00:41:10,000
yeah um let's see okay

1274
00:41:15,030 --> 00:41:13,440
um real quick well it doesn't have to be

1275
00:41:18,550 --> 00:41:15,040
quick it's up to you but

1276
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:18,560
if you could choose between taking

1277
00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:21,599
a ride in a spaceship or a time machine

1278
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,040
uh which would it be um and you can say

1279
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,839
where you'd go why and what you'd do

1280
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:29,359
time machine i'd definitely take

1281
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,870
let's see backwards or forwards probably

1282
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,160
i would love to go forward like

1283
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:41,680
a hundred years and see if we're still

1284
00:41:48,630 --> 00:41:46,470
one of my other interests is whether or

1285
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,640
not how would that work

1286
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:50,000
you know i want to yeah it's like if i

1287
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:52,160
if 100 years as far as humans i think

1288
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,079
the the planet will always be here

1289
00:41:58,630 --> 00:41:56,880
um at least for the foreseeable future

1290
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:58,640
uh but i would love to see a hundred

1291
00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:59,599
years you know

1292
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:01,280
because one of the other things i'm

1293
00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,960
interested in cyclical

1294
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,960
cyclical cataclysms on this planet which

1295
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,319
i think happen

1296
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:09,200
every you know 12 13 000 years and i

1297
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:10,480
don't know if we're due for another one

1298
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,400
i just think that happens on this planet

1299
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:14,800
like the flood and such yeah the flood

1300
00:42:18,309 --> 00:42:16,319
which is documented that we had a flood

1301
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,319
related maybe to a comet commentary

1302
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,480
impact multiple pieces of a comet it's

1303
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:22,560
breaking up i was in norway once in a

1304
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:24,560
church and had this beautiful painting

1305
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:26,000
and it basically shows the comet

1306
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:28,160
breaking up um

1307
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:29,359
over the planet and then that would

1308
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,880
cause tidal waves you know stuff like

1309
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:31,680
that

1310
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,560
um so i'd love to go 100 years or a

1311
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:35,920
couple hundred years maybe a thousand

1312
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:37,680
years in the future and see

1313
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:40,880
how many of us are left

1314
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:43,440
it's just a little it's a little ufo joe

1315
00:42:48,630 --> 00:42:45,040
that's it

1316
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:48,640
yeah i'm here uh okay so time machine

1317
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,760
that's a great answer um you know

1318
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:54,079
and kind of seems like typically you you

1319
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:55,839
want to go in and find the real dirt

1320
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:59,040
and tell people yeah look for that

1321
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:01,200
newspaper article that finally told us

1322
00:43:09,750 --> 00:43:04,640
it's confirmed we're not alone

1323
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,760
um now what do you make of corbell

1324
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:12,400
commenting that there intelligently

1325
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:13,119
controlled

1326
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:16,800
the triangles because he's he said that

1327
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,319
in describing them these things

1328
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:21,520
are under intelligent control and

1329
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:24,160
i don't recall him saying like a maybe

1330
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,880
it was kind of

1331
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,400
like a definitive statement i could be

1332
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,319
wrong but

1333
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,400
am i hearing that wrong or is that

1334
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,800
really the case

1335
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:34,480
i think you're hearing it correct i just

1336
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,160
think he has a lot of information and

1337
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:37,680
people he's spoken to that he hasn't

1338
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:39,040
released yet it comes down to that i

1339
00:43:42,230 --> 00:43:40,560
mean i heard the same thing i've spoken

1340
00:43:44,309 --> 00:43:42,240
to somebody and you're like

1341
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:44,319
these things are not acting like drones

1342
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:46,000
or they're acting like nothing we've

1343
00:43:49,670 --> 00:43:47,119
ever seen so

1344
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,680
you know under intelligent control and

1345
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:51,680
and acting like you know

1346
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,839
it's not a not a normal uh technology

1347
00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,119
that we know about

1348
00:43:59,109 --> 00:43:57,119
you know and tyler rogoway wrote a great

1349
00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,119
article in in the drive about

1350
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,920
you know drone technology um i mean it's

1351
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,359
it's possible

1352
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,280
that you know our adversaries have these

1353
00:44:08,150 --> 00:44:06,960
amazing drones and they're soaking up in

1354
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,160
for intel information

1355
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:11,040
but i would think if tyler knows about

1356
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,599
that

1357
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,400
i would think our navy and people in the

1358
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,000
intelligence world know about that too i

1359
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,119
mean people say not necessarily i'm like

1360
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,200
you know let's see what happens because

1361
00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,640
like i said behind the scenes they're

1362
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,319
taking it seriously they think they're

1363
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:25,520
uap

1364
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:27,280
um tyler thought the three photos that

1365
00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,280
george knapp released with the

1366
00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:32,160
the blimp and the acorn and the sphere

1367
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:32,480
right

1368
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:35,280
tyler tyler believes those are balloons

1369
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,240
but you know

1370
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:38,560
the wind at that point at that that

1371
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,440
altitude was

1372
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,599
90 90 plus miles an hour and and the

1373
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:42,960
f-18 pilots

1374
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:44,960
allegedly were saying these things we

1375
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:47,440
got close and they they're not moving

1376
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:50,880
just the utter lack of confidence

1377
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:53,680
in the intelligence of the men and women

1378
00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:54,720
who serve for us

1379
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,280
it's kind of pathetic to be quite honest

1380
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,319
with you yeah and if they're

1381
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,319
if they're if they're if he's right we

1382
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:01,920
are so screwed

1383
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,839
we're so screwed i don't think we're

1384
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:05,520
screwed you know it's like but

1385
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:07,440
i have maybe we got north korea and

1386
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:09,520
we're chasing balloons all day

1387
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:12,240
yeah exactly exactly let's i think a lot

1388
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:13,359
more is going to come out so

1389
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:15,359
we don't have to debate it because it's

1390
00:45:18,550 --> 00:45:16,720
like i think we'll know

1391
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:18,560
more and people will realize that you

1392
00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:21,359
know it's probably not drones

1393
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:24,079
or balloons just waiting to see you know

1394
00:45:27,510 --> 00:45:25,520
what the

1395
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,520
rest of this life is is going to look

1396
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:29,119
like

1397
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:30,800
in the world i think drones are involved

1398
00:45:34,309 --> 00:45:32,480
too it's like i'm not saying they're not

1399
00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:34,319
drones aren't red it doesn't have to be

1400
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,599
black and white

1401
00:45:38,630 --> 00:45:37,680
right and like i think a lot of this and

1402
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:38,640
the video is not

1403
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,440
clear you know it shows a a triangle and

1404
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:43,119
then the report jeremy got from

1405
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:46,079
the people who he had sources told him

1406
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:46,880
that it was

1407
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,200
seen as a pyramid not a triangle and

1408
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,880
people are like well that's right

1409
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,119
and it said it was 700 information he

1410
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:55,119
obtained and released

1411
00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:58,319
right pained and released and you know

1412
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,240
i just don't think you know people are

1413
00:46:02,630 --> 00:46:02,000
like it's a plane that's out of focus

1414
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:02,640
and like

1415
00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,920
are these guys that clueless right

1416
00:46:08,950 --> 00:46:07,280
even you know if you want to say they

1417
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,960
were fooled on the deck of the ship

1418
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,400
but then it made it to the next level

1419
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,319
and then the next level exactly

1420
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:14,240
not checking to see if it was a plane

1421
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:15,680
you know so

1422
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:18,160
yeah hard to believe you guys trick uh

1423
00:46:26,950 --> 00:46:20,880
flight uh radar 24 or what

1424
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:30,230
civilians are even doing it i know uh

1425
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:33,040
okay no thanks for uh commenting on that

1426
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:33,440
um

1427
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:36,720
i i haven't heard one thing i was

1428
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:37,839
curious about maybe you have some

1429
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:38,319
insight

1430
00:46:42,230 --> 00:46:41,920
is uh uh robert bigelow he always kind

1431
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:42,240
of

1432
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:44,640
had his face around this topic i feel

1433
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:45,440
like

1434
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,400
with nasa that kind of fell through

1435
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:53,040
it seemed like and then he's doing the

1436
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:54,400
consciousness study

1437
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:57,839
is do you think he's done with his uap

1438
00:47:02,470 --> 00:47:00,800
stuff or is he still have his finger on

1439
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:02,480
the pulse or is he involved in anything

1440
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:03,440
do you know

1441
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:04,720
well i think he's involved because he

1442
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:06,400
was at that meeting where george knapp

1443
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,960
acquired

1444
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:09,359
the three photos the three uh when was

1445
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:10,640
it

1446
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,680
okay that those

1447
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,280
that he first acquired those vote and

1448
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,640
george couldn't release them because he

1449
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:18,079
had made a promise to the people who he

1450
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,960
got him from

1451
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,960
um and people are like well george got

1452
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,319
the photos from from

1453
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:24,640
bigelow i'm like no george said that

1454
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,720
bigelow hosted the meeting here in vegas

1455
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:28,079
he didn't say he got them from him so

1456
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,440
he's got his hand in that

1457
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,880
and he's working on the consciousness

1458
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:32,800
and life after death you know he has

1459
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,240
that contest going where

1460
00:47:37,990 --> 00:47:36,400
people who wrote you know wrote an essay

1461
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:38,000
about their their evidence for life

1462
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,440
after death and the first i think first

1463
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:41,920
prize is like 750

1464
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:43,760
it's a lot half a million it's a lot of

1465
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:45,200
it's a total of over a million dollars

1466
00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:45,599
in

1467
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:48,160
prize money so i really can't wait to

1468
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:49,200
see what the best

1469
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:50,800
essays are what kind of evidence they

1470
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:52,559
came up with yeah

1471
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:56,000
i mean um i have a feeling it'll

1472
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,640
kind of have a lot to do with

1473
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:00,160
reincarnations and

1474
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,079
you know so on and so forth evidence

1475
00:48:07,349 --> 00:48:04,319
that way and out of body experiences

1476
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,359
and ndes and all that um

1477
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:09,280
there was i i already forgot his name

1478
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,280
but i've learned about him

1479
00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:13,200
because uh george knapp actually

1480
00:48:16,710 --> 00:48:14,800
interviewed him

1481
00:48:18,710 --> 00:48:16,720
and i'm not sure if he was taking part

1482
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:18,720
in this consciousness study or not

1483
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,309
i don't know but i started reading his

1484
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,720
book and

1485
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,960
it was brilliant it was about like these

1486
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:29,920
seven worlds

1487
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:32,559
and all this stuff you know after he

1488
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,040
died

1489
00:48:37,190 --> 00:48:34,880
these seven worlds and stuff uh but the

1490
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,200
book was really great he talks about

1491
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:39,119
you know kind of how everything that

1492
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:40,880
people believe in whether it's god or

1493
00:48:43,349 --> 00:48:41,599
you know

1494
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:43,359
or whatever all kind of existed

1495
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:44,880
historically in different

1496
00:48:48,309 --> 00:48:48,000
you know places and you know kind of

1497
00:48:50,470 --> 00:48:48,319
like

1498
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,480
everyone's right type of situation but

1499
00:48:53,990 --> 00:48:52,160
this is how we put it together

1500
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:54,000
it's a really good book i really admire

1501
00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:55,520
bigelow for doing that consciousness

1502
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:56,079
study

1503
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,440
even though it seems literally

1504
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:59,359
impossible to

1505
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:01,680
be able to prove but he never shies away

1506
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:02,480
from

1507
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,599
uh those kind of challenges and

1508
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:07,440
you know that's pretty impressive to me

1509
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:08,720
so yeah like

1510
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,200
i agree very impossible to prove um even

1511
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,640
with mediums i believe there are some

1512
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,559
mediums who can acquire information

1513
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:15,839
that there's no way they could have

1514
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,599
known and it's through a sixth sense

1515
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:19,119
but to prove it's coming from a dead

1516
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,680
person right it's such another

1517
00:49:25,510 --> 00:49:23,839
leap it's the same thing yeah and

1518
00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,520
there's some work being done where

1519
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:27,119
gary schwartz who's done work with

1520
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:28,400
mediums where he's saying there's like

1521
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:30,720
photons entering this device

1522
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,319
during a reading which suggests that

1523
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,240
there's something entering the room so

1524
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:36,240
that's that's encouraging as our

1525
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,920
technology gets better we may be able to

1526
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:40,000
see into this other world and

1527
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:42,559
that's i think i think that could happen

1528
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:44,160
i just don't know when it's like

1529
00:49:47,510 --> 00:49:46,000
10 years you know i'd be alive to see

1530
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:47,520
into if there's another dimension of

1531
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,400
people

1532
00:49:51,990 --> 00:49:50,000
right around us will we be able to have

1533
00:49:54,390 --> 00:49:52,000
technology that actually shows us that

1534
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,400
and steven greer claims black projects

1535
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:56,000
have that technology where they can look

1536
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,440
into other dimensions

1537
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,240
but like i said claims claims a lot of

1538
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,760
stuff so who the heck knows but

1539
00:50:06,549 --> 00:50:03,280
i would love that for that to be the

1540
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:06,559
case um just this whole theory

1541
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:09,359
is full uh fake alien invasion

1542
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,240
absolutely

1543
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:12,240
zero sense to me there's no it doesn't

1544
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,680
make any sense you know i don't reject

1545
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,760
it i don't reject anything like okay i i

1546
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,280
don't see any evidence for it it doesn't

1547
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:19,520
make any sense but just keep it

1548
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,960
just in case i'll leave it there

1549
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:24,400
but yeah it's like it's really that's

1550
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:25,839
all he's pushing right now he's trying

1551
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:27,359
to get a documentary out right now and

1552
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,640
he's rushing before

1553
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,400
the government's report coming out on

1554
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,559
uap's at the end of june

1555
00:50:35,589 --> 00:50:35,040
um he's rushing to get done capitalistic

1556
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:35,599
of him

1557
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,880
because he thinks we're gonna say it's a

1558
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,200
threat it's a threat and elizondo has

1559
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,520
been very clear he goes it could be a

1560
00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,359
threat we don't know it could not be a

1561
00:50:48,230 --> 00:50:46,000
threat we don't know

1562
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:48,240
it's an interesting article about those

1563
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:49,280
electronic

1564
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,559
like uh pulse attacks that were

1565
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:54,079
happening in cuba and stuff

1566
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,839
and somewhere it happened here in

1567
00:51:01,990 --> 00:50:57,200
washington dc

1568
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:02,000
and uh it was in november last year

1569
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,800
and i commented this on their story i'm

1570
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,160
not sure anyone thought but

1571
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:09,280
in november last year is when trump went

1572
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:10,480
to the bunker

1573
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:12,240
and everyone was like why did he go to

1574
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,160
the bunker what did he do that for

1575
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,640
i bet it was because of that because it

1576
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:18,480
was right in the white house lawn

1577
00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:20,720
that somebody got hit with it

1578
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:22,480
interesting

1579
00:51:26,790 --> 00:51:25,760
and is that related to uap stuff movie

1580
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:26,800
i don't know i mean there are people

1581
00:51:30,230 --> 00:51:28,800
would say it's related to evil aliens

1582
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:30,240
there are people that say it's related

1583
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,640
to

1584
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,400
black projects you know that the deep

1585
00:51:36,549 --> 00:51:34,160
state i have no idea i have no idea

1586
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,559
everybody exists i mean i do think i

1587
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:37,760
think i think there are people

1588
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:40,319
in black you know special unacknowledged

1589
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:42,559
special access projects

1590
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,960
programs that you know know stuff that

1591
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:45,920
we don't know and then

1592
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:47,119
they're going to hold on to that stuff

1593
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:49,200
is what they're going to not let that go

1594
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,040
unless they're forced um

1595
00:51:55,190 --> 00:51:53,839
but as far as who's behind that kind of

1596
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,200
attack i don't i don't know

1597
00:51:58,309 --> 00:51:57,680
i really don't know last question for

1598
00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:58,319
you

1599
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,400
for

1600
00:52:05,750 --> 00:52:04,400
people that would be just getting into

1601
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:05,760
this topic

1602
00:52:10,309 --> 00:52:08,240
when there's so much information going

1603
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,319
back and forth in different ways and

1604
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:12,319
oftentimes conflicting but from

1605
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:20,069
how do you decide

1606
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,710
who to i guess how can i put this how do

1607
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:24,000
you decide

1608
00:52:28,630 --> 00:52:26,800
yeah like what who you can read and

1609
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,640
trust what they're writing

1610
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,559
whether it be a story or a documentary

1611
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,400
like i mean because you can't just throw

1612
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,079
yourself out there but nothing's proven

1613
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:36,000
so what do you do

1614
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,680
it's hard there's some stuff that you

1615
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,119
know it's i can't really

1616
00:52:43,190 --> 00:52:41,440
give you a specific sometimes it's right

1617
00:52:46,230 --> 00:52:43,200
just more advice i guess

1618
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,240
there are people i mean and and i say i

1619
00:52:49,030 --> 00:52:48,079
have sources and people i talk to it's

1620
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,040
not like i just

1621
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:51,440
they tell me stuff and i believe it 100

1622
00:52:53,990 --> 00:52:52,160
i try to get

1623
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,000
you know information elsewhere to back

1624
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,960
it up um sometimes you can't do that

1625
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,559
um that's why i said i'm not a

1626
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,480
journalist i i don't

1627
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,119
i don't go with three independent

1628
00:53:06,230 --> 00:53:04,559
sources before i put something in my

1629
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,240
blog and people know

1630
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:08,319
if i'm speculating which is most of what

1631
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,359
i do it's like

1632
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:12,079
a lot of this is speculation um that's

1633
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,520
why i like to quote people and have

1634
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,359
their exact words and then

1635
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,720
try to back it up with something else

1636
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:18,319
but there's sometimes somebody will say

1637
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,040
something and

1638
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:21,680
i'll start i'll start transcribing and

1639
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:22,640
then they start and then

1640
00:53:30,549 --> 00:53:24,160
it just goes off the rails i'm like i

1641
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,470
and i'll give you more details than i've

1642
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:33,760
given before but

1643
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:36,480
i took a i took a remote viewing class

1644
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:36,880
back

1645
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,280
in late 90s and the person who ran the

1646
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,800
class

1647
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,880
uh was on a show a couple years ago and

1648
00:53:47,510 --> 00:53:44,480
he said that

1649
00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:47,520
he stumbled he was he went to do some

1650
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:48,240
work

1651
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:51,440
on a black program a secret program

1652
00:53:57,670 --> 00:53:54,839
and he saw humans working alongside

1653
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:57,680
aliens and i was like and i know that

1654
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,200
and i met this person and i

1655
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:01,680
love this guy um just the nicest guy so

1656
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,880
you're like

1657
00:54:05,990 --> 00:54:04,960
and the the the interviewer did not

1658
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:06,000
follow up i was like

1659
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,079
she just changed the subject i'm like

1660
00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:09,839
how could you let that go so i contacted

1661
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:11,280
him and i emailed him am i like

1662
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:14,079
can you clarify and he clarified for me

1663
00:54:17,589 --> 00:54:15,599
um

1664
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:17,599
so i'm and i hesitated to put that out

1665
00:54:19,589 --> 00:54:18,800
i've had that for a year and a half to

1666
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:19,599
two years and

1667
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:22,480
it's halfway written on my blog um i do

1668
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:23,920
want to put it out people can decide

1669
00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:24,720
because

1670
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:26,319
he's like he's not the only one who has

1671
00:54:30,069 --> 00:54:27,839
seen that stuff so

1672
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:30,079
well you know we start going with you

1673
00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,680
know we're being visited

1674
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,960
and if you go beyond that a lot of

1675
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:34,480
people freak out if you talk about what

1676
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,280
i just said

1677
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,400
people like oh you'll believe anything

1678
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,240
people need to realize you don't have to

1679
00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:42,000
commit to one thing or another

1680
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,559
you know like if you just because you're

1681
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:46,079
learning more about this one theory

1682
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,359
whether it be aliens or whatever

1683
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,720
that doesn't mean you're committed to

1684
00:54:53,349 --> 00:54:50,480
believing this and now you're

1685
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:53,359
a weird hokey alien person you know like

1686
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:54,160
you have to

1687
00:54:58,230 --> 00:54:56,640
be able to you know be free to

1688
00:54:59,349 --> 00:54:58,240
experience and learn things that you

1689
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,359
want without it

1690
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,200
being this big judgment on who you are

1691
00:55:04,870 --> 00:55:03,440
as a person you know no i you know i

1692
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,880
remember putting out information that de

1693
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:06,640
long said and de long puts out a

1694
00:55:09,750 --> 00:55:08,160
put out a lot of stuff you're like i

1695
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:09,760
don't know if i believe this but but

1696
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,040
i've heard it before and

1697
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,200
this specific information he was like

1698
00:55:17,670 --> 00:55:15,680
well this specific type of alien they

1699
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:17,680
feed off of our negative emotions and i

1700
00:55:21,990 --> 00:55:19,040
put and i've heard that

1701
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,000
i heard that since when i first got into

1702
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:23,520
this that's what i heard

1703
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:26,240
and back then i was like what i'm like

1704
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:26,880
all right

1705
00:55:30,069 --> 00:55:28,160
and i kept it in the back of my mind and

1706
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:30,079
then i heard the long say and then i and

1707
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,680
if you google it there's other people

1708
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,119
throughout history who've said

1709
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:35,040
yeah they feed off of negative emotions

1710
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,520
and that's why life on this planet is so

1711
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:39,440
bad because they influence because they

1712
00:55:43,349 --> 00:55:41,440
they need things to be bad so it's like

1713
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:43,359
i put that out and obviously i don't i

1714
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:45,040
don't know if that's true but it's

1715
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:46,400
it's something that i've heard before

1716
00:55:48,630 --> 00:55:47,839
and it's just interesting to me it's

1717
00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:48,640
like

1718
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:50,640
i said i got blasted for that i got

1719
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,839
blasted for that

1720
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:53,520
um and it's like why i'm like i'm not

1721
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:54,960
telling you to believe it it's like but

1722
00:55:56,789 --> 00:55:55,200
if

1723
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,799
but a few of those are here and they're

1724
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:58,640
not human and they're more advanced i

1725
00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:59,440
just don't

1726
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,359
see where where do you draw the line on

1727
00:56:04,789 --> 00:56:03,280
what the next step is

1728
00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:04,799
like there are some people that don't

1729
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:06,559
even think we have material why would

1730
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,440
they crash

1731
00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:09,760
why would we have any of their their

1732
00:56:13,750 --> 00:56:11,599
their craft that doesn't make any

1733
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,760
they'll stop just at ufos and they will

1734
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:15,440
not go any further

1735
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:19,040
yeah it's it's just too bad um

1736
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,240
you know i don't know if people are

1737
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,160
scared of it or what but you know the

1738
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:23,920
interesting part about it is

1739
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,839
uh whether people believe in it or not

1740
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:27,839
it's here and it is what it is

1741
00:56:31,109 --> 00:56:29,920
so so they're not going to be able to

1742
00:56:33,270 --> 00:56:31,119
affect that reality

1743
00:56:34,789 --> 00:56:33,280
um but you know hopefully they're in

1744
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,799
suited later so they could at least be

1745
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,240
prepared for something

1746
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:38,000
um albeit i don't know what that would

1747
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:39,280
be but

1748
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,359
um i think we're just about done here

1749
00:56:47,829 --> 00:56:45,280
that's an hour

1750
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,839
just about um i had a really great time

1751
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:48,799
talking to you

1752
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:51,520
i believe it or not i don't have any

1753
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:51,839
like

1754
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,240
in-person friends or people that i can

1755
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:55,839
talk to about this stuff

1756
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:58,079
or even over the phone so this is

1757
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,520
awesome that i get to

1758
00:57:02,710 --> 00:57:01,040
out of all people i get to talk to you

1759
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:02,720
about it so yeah

1760
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,400
super cool i know there's other people

1761
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:08,799
that you're gonna have on um

1762
00:57:12,069 --> 00:57:10,160
and i don't know if i answered your

1763
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:12,079
question about how i determine whether

1764
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,079
or not something credible but it's like

1765
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,559
oh yeah it's not easy not easy and i

1766
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:18,160
appreciate you having me on sean it's

1767
00:57:20,309 --> 00:57:18,720
like yeah

1768
00:57:21,829 --> 00:57:20,319
a lot a lot of stuff's going on

1769
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:21,839
hopefully today we'll learn more about

1770
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,720
that

1771
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:24,079
what i referenced and there's other

1772
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:25,599
stuff there's just so much stuff going

1773
00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:26,400
on so

1774
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,520
i think my theory right now my theory

1775
00:57:33,109 --> 00:57:30,960
right now is observe over

1776
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:33,119
opinion i'm observing i'm not making

1777
00:57:36,309 --> 00:57:34,079
opinions

1778
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,319
i'm taking it all in i'm putting it in

1779
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,680
the little mental boxes

1780
00:57:41,829 --> 00:57:40,000
when they things connect i'll you know

1781
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:41,839
make sure to acknowledge that

1782
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,839
but i'm just watching the show and it's

1783
00:57:46,700 --> 00:57:45,119
awesome

1784
00:57:48,470 --> 00:57:46,710
i hope it doesn't get cancelled

1785
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,480
[Laughter]

1786
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:50,720
take any conclusions even if i if i come

1787
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,000
to a conclusion just take it with a

1788
00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:54,240
grain of salt you know yeah

1789
00:57:57,190 --> 00:57:55,839
there's a lot of i think a lot of

1790
00:57:57,829 --> 00:57:57,200
information is coming together now we'll

1791
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,839
have

1792
00:58:01,349 --> 00:58:00,000
a little much a little better whole uh

1793
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,359
grip on what's going on

1794
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:03,599
maybe just a little bit more um but yeah

1795
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:04,640
thank you for having me on it's been

1796
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:05,040
great

1797
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:07,599
i enjoyed it yeah i hope you come back

1798
00:58:09,670 --> 00:58:08,160
i'd

1799
00:58:11,510 --> 00:58:09,680
love to do it again with you so

1800
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:11,520
hopefully awesome

1801
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:13,119
thanks joe you have a great rest of the